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yacht racing tragedy. developing now, tornado alley. look at these pictures, a suspected twister tore through the city of woodward, oklahoma overnight. at least five there are dead, even more injured. several are critically wounded. just one of more than 100 reported tornadoes across the region. kansas is under a state of emergency right now. and damage is reported at the city's airport and mcconnell air force base. in iowa, the storms destroyed nearly the entire city of thurman and a nearby hospital suffering severe damage. baseball-sized hail pounded parts of nebraska and drivers in the city of norfolk encountered piles of hail and flooded parking lots. nbc's jay gray is joining us by phone if one of those hardest-hit areas. that is woodward, oklahoma. jay, walk us through what you're seeing there. >> reporter: good morning, thomas, i'm at the command post here in woodward. i have to tell you, just first blush, seeing some of these first responders who have worked for years, some of them for decades here in tornado alley. still stunned by what they've
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seen here in woodward this morning. there are sections of this small town that are just leveled. really nothing left. you talked about it, five people confirmed dead at this point. the search and rescue still very active. at least 30 people injured, ten of those critical. and in fact five of them had to be flown to other areas of the state for treatment. because the hospital here was just too crowded. too many injuries. and so they've moved them. it's going to be a tough process getting into some of these areas. there's a lot of debris here. there are a lot of people here. some coming into to try to help as they so often do when you see these tragedies. others trying to get back into their homes to see what might be left. that's going to be a slow process as well, thomas. as you can imagine, a lot of confusion on the grounds here right now. a lot of people very concerned, very worried about what's going on in their community. >> the images are just startling to see today. jay, we're going to let you get back to work, we'll talk to you again in the next hour. as we talk about the weather, there is this threat of
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dangerous conditions today. severe weather forecasts from the gulf coast to the great lakes. weather channel meteorologist jeff morrow lends his expertise to tell us what happened and what to expect. >> thank you, thomas. well the threat continues after yesterday's reports of over 100 tornadoes and unfortunately, five fatalities. today the set-up, very similar. we don't think today will be as big a threat for tornadoes. we still have the warm, moist air flowing up from the gulf of mexico. we've got this low pressure area. and very strong jet stream moving out of the rockies. things coming together a little bit farther north today as far as the threat of tornadoes. we think the highest threat may actually be up here in parts of wisconsin, northwest illinois, southeastern minnesota. we could have some big thunderstorms with gusty winds, hail and lightning well down all the way into texas and louisiana by tonight. tomorrow, it looks like the emphasis will shift mainly back to the south as the front kind of stalls out here. but from chattanooga, tennessee to birmingham, new orleans,
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houston to the coastal bend of texas. that's where we could see some strong thunderstorms. but again, it doesn't look like a big tornado threat for tomorrow. thomas? >> jeff, thanks so much. for more on the tornado damage, head to the weather channel's website, at weather.com. we'll move on to breaking news that we've been following. the u.s. embassy in afghanistan is in lockdown after a series of attacks today. taliban militants are claiming responsibility for the coordinated attacks in the capital of kabul. there was a shelling and gun fire near the american and british embassies, taliban bases as well as the afghan parliament and president hamid karzai's palace. nbc news senior producer is in kabul to explain us. suhail, brings unto speed. >> reporter: the fighting is still going on as we speak. there was fighting around the around the surrounding provinces of kabul. that seems to be over there are still attackers at large around this complex area. now, where the they targeted so
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far, three embassies being the u.s., the uk and the german embassies. now this, and also the parliament and the nato bases are all in the same sort of area. so this is like the hub of western official business. and this was you know, a very sophisticated attack. now the main important thing is the taliban have issued a number of statements today. and the most important one being that this is in retaliation to the earlier koran burning. and they said, told nbc news that they deliberately attacked the german, british and u.s. embassies and will continue to do so, and this is just what they call their spring offensive. they are you know, have done, have been a month planning this. and are going to continue with this attack. thomas? >> sohel, tell us yut side kabul, there are reports of turbulence elsewhere throughout afghanistan. >> reporter: yes, in three
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provinces that surround kabul, very close to kabul, and this all part of this campaign. this offensive. those attacks are related to today's attacks. and the taliban have claimed responsibility for those attacks. too together with the ones in kabul. except the ones in kabul continue as we speak. >> sohel uddin, we'll talk to you later in the next hour, thank you. details continue to emerge out of colombia, where an embarrassing scandal is overshadowing the president's trip to the summit of the americas. secret service personnel and the members of the u.s. military are under investigation for alleged misconduct involving prostitutes at their hotel. nbc news white house correspondent, kristen welker is traveling in colombia with the president and has details on this and overshadowing to say the least, kristen. >> reporter: absolutely overshadowing, thomas, good afternoon to you. well the secret service has launched a full-scale internal investigation. they have interviewed all 11
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personnel involved. they've placed them on administrative leave. that alleged incident occurred right here at this hotel. it's called the hotel caribe, just a few minutes from where the president is staying. according to u.s. officials, the allegations involve 11 members of the secret service. and five u.s. military service members. here in colombia on a signment to protect the president. they're allege to have brought prostitutes back to their hotel rooms. sources familiar with the incident say there was a dispute over a payment which brought it to the attention of the authorities. according to the defense department, the service members are now confined to quarters here. and the secret service says their personnel, both special agents and uniformed officers were sent home before the president's arrival. and replaced with others. >> the president was made aware of it of the incident in question yesterday. the white house was informed thursday evening. >> reporter: representative peter king, chairman of the house homeland security committee has been briefed on
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the evolving scandal. >> 11 secret service personnel, 11 brought women back to their hotel rooms on wednesday evening. into thursday morning. >> reporter: in a statement, the secret service said it takes all allegations of misconduct seriously. the white house press secretary stressed that the president's security was never compromised. >> the president does have full confidence notice united states secret service. >> this really is the biggest scandal in the history of the secret service. >> reporter: ron kesler, who wrote "in the president's secret service" said the incident could be indicative of a larger problem within the agency. >> mr. and mrs. salahi. >> reporter: a problem kesler said was brought to light in 2009 when two reality tv stars gained entrance to a state dinner without an invitation. >> there's a culture in the secret service that's fostered by the management of just nodding, winking, favoritism. what the agency needs is an
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outside director who can come in and clean house. change the standards. >> this was wrong from beginning to end. if the facts are what they seem to be, this is something that just cannot be tolerated. >> reporter: now prostitution is legal in some parts of colombia. but the secret service says it has a zero tolerance policy poll when it comes to personal conduct. i have spoken to experts on the secret service, thomas, who say that the fact that this occurred during a foreign trip is highly embarrassing, not only for the secret service, but also for the white house. thomas? >> kristen, as you point out, certainly embarrassing. but does this draw a more laser beam focused eye on a subculture that may exist within the secret service. as we're hearing secret service are trained probably, most likely as we're trained through history, to look the other way at the personer that guarding for sensitive situations. but it's a different story when it comes to them. and potentially compromising the
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safety of the president. >> absolutely. and you heard ron kesler touch on that point. talking about the fact that once these investigations get under way, they're going to need to look at the culture within the secret service. it might need to change and they might need to make some hard decisions in order to change that culture. certainly something that the white house will be monitoring quite closely in the coming days. >> kristen welker, traveling with the president in colombia, thanks so much. we now take you to the front page of politics and the treasury secretary on today's "meet the press" timothy geithner says despite the challenges still out there, the economy is showing more positive signs. take a listen. >> if you look at the scale of what this president did and the speed and force with which he put out the financial fires and got growth starting again and you look at the strength of what are fundamental measures of economic health, it's very encouraging. so i think americans should feel much more confident today than
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they've felt at any time in the last five offer six years. >> at the same time the senior voyeur to the romney of the campaign blasted the president's handling of the economy on another sunday talk show. >> for the past three years receive seen the damage done by president obama's policies. we've seen the failed stimulus result in unemployment above 8% for 38 straight months. we've seen his obama care bill result in rising premiums for our health insurance. >> newt gingrich spent part of his saturday touring the nascar hall of fame in charlotte, north carolina. despite acknowledging that romney will likely be the republican nominee, gingrich says it's important to continue in the race. >> i am the conservative with the boldest solutions to actually get america back on the right track. i'm the person most likely to beat obama in a series of debates in september and october. >> joining me is real clear politics reporter, erin mcpike. erin, good to have you here this morning. let's start with what we heard from secretary geithner, touting the obama administration's economic accomplishments, so on
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one hand, we're hearing that. and then we hear on the other side, ed gillespie attacking the president's economic policies. how is the battle going it play out as we approach november? >> it's really going to be incumbent upon the romney campaign to show exactly how they say that the president, that president obama's policies have slowed the recovery or not made it good enough. and really, the president's team has to also be careful by saying that, yes, we should have more confidence in the economic recovery. but not saying that the economy has come back entirely yet. so it's going to be a careful game for which side, each of these sides. to see how well they do. >> so let's talk more about the deepening scandal involving the secret service overshadowing the president's trip to colombia. we heard from kristen welker about what the latest is on the ground. what are you hearing in washington, d.c.? and while they have said that the president's security was never truly in jeopardy, what do
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the actions say about an indulgence 0 or an overconfidence that the secret service may have? >> well, as for what i've heard in washington, right now i think there are some members of congress trying to figure out which congressional committee might have jurisdiction over this issue. i know republican congressmen darrell issa, who runs the government oversight committee in the house, is looking to see what he might be able to do in terms of launching an investigation. so they want to see where there might be some sort of breach, administrative breach or breach of leadership in the government. >> they're human beings but they've signed on to such an important job that we hold them to a different accord. i want it talk to you about what we're hearing from newt gingrich. he is not, erin, calling it quits. saying that he needs to stay in the race. but take a listen to newt gingrich's spin on this. >> everywhere i go, people walk up and say, i'm glad you're still in the race. so the voters think i'm relevant. the elite media doesn't always, but the voters do. >> the elite media doesn't.
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if the voters thought he was so relevant, he would be doing better throughout the polling and he would be doing better throughout the primaries that he's already competed in. what is his goal, his end game here? >> the campaign has told me that essentially, he wants to go into the convention with more delegates. newt gingrich sees himself as a very big historical figure and he wants to leave a legacy and make some impact on this election by some of the policies that he's touting. as you know, over the last couple of months, he's been saying we need to get down to $2.50 a gallon gas. and so he, he's looking at contests in delaware and north carolina, knowing that mitt romney has pivoted to the general election. he wants to win a few more states so he can go into the convention looking like a more serious, credible candidate. >> great to see you, thank you. exaggerations abound in the buffett rule debate. what is fact, what is fiction? we'll sort it out later.
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welcome back, we want to talk about what is coming next in the trayvon martin case against george zimmerman. next week zimmerman will find out if he gets released on bond. will the case even go on to trial. and if it does, is second-degree murder the only thing that it can be charged with? joining me live is former prosecutor gary kasemir and a criminal defense attorney. great to see both of you. i want it start with you, gary. how likely is it that zimmerman is going to be able to accomplish getting bond and be released aslely as friday? >> there's a possibility.
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next stage in the process is an author hearing. murder in a second-degree is not an immediately bailable defense. two factors considered. whether the evidence is evident of guilt and whether the presumption is great. it's like a mini trial. the special prosecutor will have to put on, but the benefit the special prosecutor is he doesn't have to put witnesses on live, he gets to put in affidavits and the defense gets to challenge that evidence. in addition to that factor, whether the guilt, the presumption of guilt is great is also whether he's a flight risk and a danger to the community. >> where does his safety play into this and how the court takes that into consideration about the potential for bail, saying well maybe he's safer if we hold on to him rather than let him go. >> there's been a lot of stories about the fact that he may be in danger there. there have been threats made on his life as a result of this. but it's been going on for some time. it's been going on for 45 days before he's arrested. i don't believe that will play a role in determining whether or not he can be released if jail. they'll have to provide for
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security for him at home. >> they're not going to hire him a body guard if they let him out. >> let's talk about the stand your ground law. potential that zimmerman could face immunity within the state of florida is that were something that their legal defense team went with. explain that to us. >> this is the crux of the case. zimmerman's defense if you will all along has been he's not guilty because this was an incident involving self-defense and under the florida stand your ground rule he had a right to do that. in florida what they'll do now is determine whether he has immunity from prosecution. in other words, do those facts fit the law. if they do, this case is over and it will never see a trial and never see a jury, it will be done at that point if it works. >> what do you think with angela corey, with the way she drafted this, saying he basically profiled trayvon martin. and profiled him, followed him. you know, where does stand your ground come into all of that? or is that blown out of the
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window? >> i think we have two separate issues there. if it comes to pass that the stand your ground rule applies and that the facts fit, i don't think you're going onto the next level to determine whether or not this was a height crime. not every act of violence between people of different races is is a hate crime. there's more evidence that needs to come out before we can get close to determining whether there was a height crime involved here. >> i think the issues that you brought out, how does it play a role. in this instance, obviously trayvon is not the aggressor. the law doesn't give you a right to pursue and confront. the issue is self-defense. he is going to say after he pursued and confronted him, he became afraid of his life. that's his defense. but the government going to say stand your ground does not apply in this instance, it was not made to go after people. it was made so you could defend yourself in instances where you fear for your life. >> it could take a while for the legalese and the process to go through. obviously everybody wants this
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to be done in the truest and most just of ways. and to be cautious in that pursuit of justice. in getting this to trial, how long could it take? >> i don't think the hearing necessarily is going to slow the process significantly. it takes about a year for someone to go to trial for murder. as you know, we've had significant cases in the past, all in florida, and the average is about a year and i don't see any reason why this would be different. >> johna, i want to ask you two things. does zimmerman need to take the stand? mostly like in his defense if this goes to trial disprove the second-degree murder charge and secondly is this a case would you take? >> i don't see how he cannot take the stand. he's going to be the best evidence in his own defense. what was going through his mind. because remember, if they're trying to prove murder ii, it's about his intent, did he have malice. there's no way to get inside george zimmerman's head unless george zimmerman takes the stand. that's number one. number two, of course i would take this case, although i wouldn't appreciate the death threats because trust me, his attorneys will get them just like he's getting them.
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but it's not about you. you don't have to agree or you don't have to like, you don't have to condone your client. you have to make sure the true facts come out and they're applied properly to the law. that's the role of the defense attorney. so yes, i would take the case. >> for prosecution if he does take the stand, do you think the easy question off the top would have been would you have pursued trayvon martin if you weren't carrying a gun? >> that's a great question. as a prosecutor i relish the opportunity for a defendant to get on the stand and tell his story. this is an opportunity to punch holes in it. and you have a great story as a prosecutor. trayvon wasn't looking for you, you chased trayvon down, why? why did you go after him? what about his appearance made you think you needed to chase him down? >> thanks for coming in this morning. number four on our first five web stories is a deadly yacht race accident off the coast of california. a wave swent sailors off the deck. one person was killed, the coast guard continues to search for four missing sailors.
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you know after more than 500 years, leonardo da vinci is still a mysterious figure. the genius who painted the "mona lisa" would have been 560 years old today. but art historians are still learning new and surprising facts about the artist's life. nbc's duncan golistani has the story. >> reporter: leonardo da vinci is perhaps the greatest artist of all time. and also the most mysterious. the man who gave us "mona lisa" was undoubtedly a genius who set out to learn all there is to know to conceive new ideas and invent works that changed the world. his painting of the "last supper" inspired the movie, "the da vinci code." providing the backdrop for a centuries-old conspiracy. nearly 500 years since his death, his work still attracts
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controversy. his last great piece, "the virgin and child of saint anne" was just unveiled at the louvre in paris. the blues are brighter, but they hide a darker intrigue. resignations and bitter arguments whether this is really what he intended. >> there have been many minor restorations, many touching-ups. this was the most radical restoration in a long time. it's very different. it's very much more colorful and lighter in its effects. >> reporter: hidden away at winder castle. queen elizabeth released lee dmardo da vinci's notebooks, giving us an insight into the everyday man. his packing list show he was fascinated by anatomy and even dissected corpses. there's a reminder to get hold of a skull. >> leonardo investigated the nervous system to an extent that
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wasn't to be repeated until the 18th or 19th century. he was looking at how the muscles and bones made the body move in a way that simply nobody else had done. >> reporter: this work was never completed or published. had it been, it would have transformed understanding of the human body. sometimes it's almost as if leonardo da vinci wanted to keep us all guessing. duncan golistani, nbc news, london. >> all right so now number five on our first five web stories, jackie robinson, 65 years ago today he broke baseball's color barrier when he played his first major league game for the brooklyn dodgers. today, every player throughout the big leagues will wear number 42 in honor of jackie robinson. zap technology. departure. hertz gold plus rewards also offers ereturn-- our fastest way to return your car.
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developing now in the plains and midwest, nearly 120 tornado reports spanned four states in tornado alley. a suspected twister touched down after midnight in the town of woodward, oklahoma. five people there are dead. in kansas, the gosh declared a state of emergency emergency. damages reported at wichita's airport and at a nearby air force base. we're fortunate to have the weather channel's meteorologist mike seidel join us from wichita to tell us what he's seen there. mike, bring us up to speed. >> here in wichita there was one tornado that skipped through the southern and eastern suburbs. we just missed it last night at the weather service's office, we took cover, they shut down for 30 minutes, transferring their operations to topeka. wind gusts were 86 miles per hour. then the twister headed in this direction, just south of mcconnell air force base and the home of barbara and tony klein, they're doing some clean-up now, they've raised the side of their garage, they lost their whole garage. the cars are drivable. the inside of the house is real
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mess. i want to take you around back and give you an idea of what the tornado, more likely an ef-1 or 2, took the side of the house off, the brick facade is down. most of the roof is gone is over there in the, in the field across the ravine and we noticed up in the tree, their front door mat that says "welcome" has been punctured by the tree. the trees have been denuded, deleaved and sheared off at the top. some of the worst damage is beyond the field, if you can see it through the trees, that's the mobile home park. 100 mobile homes were damaged, 10 to 15 destroyed. but no fatalities. they've got a huge underground shelter, nearly 100 residents headed underground for safety. there was a fire last night from a natural gas leak over there. only about 19 injuries in the metro wichita area. no fatalities here in the state of kansas as far as we know. a lot of twisters that number will be whittled down as they do
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the damage surveys, which are ongoing this morning and this afternoon. back to you. >> mike seidel in wichita, kansas, thanks. now for some strategy talk. the romney campaign scored big points last week after democratic strategist, hilary rosen went after ann romney for being a state at home mom. mitt romney responded by saying that all moms are working moms. but our friends at "up with chris heys" found video three months ago where romney had a slightly different stance. >> i like the idea that people receiving welfare assistance have a responsibility of working. in my state we made good progress in that regard. following the days of the welfare reform act. but then while i was governor, 85% of the people on a form of welfare assistance in my state had no work requirement. and i wanted to increase the work requirement. i said for instance, even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work. and people said, well that's heartless, and i said no, no, i'm willing to spend more,
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giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. it will cost the state more, providing the day care. but i want the individuals to have the dignity of work. >> joining me is former rnc chairman and msnbc analyst, michael steele. and former vermont governor and dnc chairman, howard dean. gentlemen, great to see you this afternoon. michael, i want to start with you. we're hearing those comments now from mitt romney. we heard them before three months ago. now they're coming back into residen residence. is this consistent with his positions? or is this going to be a flip-flopping label for him on that? >> i think it's consistent. i think he's talking about you know his desire as a governor of his state to dealing with a new reform in welfare benefits and requirements that parents, you know, parents go to work if they're on welfare. that he wanted to create every incentive possible to make that happen. i think it's consistent with the overall argument that the romney people have been making with
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respect to the controversy surrounding ann. that women and individuals have choices. to the extent that government has a role to play in those choices, certainly his role as a governor is to make sure they're able to act on those choices as they come about. >> governor dean, i'm going to put this question to you, do you think this is an etch-a-sketch moment. >> the republicans are in deep trouble with women and they know it. hilary rosen shouldn't have said what she said. but the truth is what governor romney said underlined exactly what hilary rosen said. if you have plenty of money you can make the choice it stay home. i think that's great. most women in america don't have plenty of money and they're tired of having republicans tell them what they can do in their personal life. so it's an unfortunate problem again for governor romney who hasn't had many good weeks in the past 18 months. >> it was a poor choice of words and the way that i've been looking at this and the fact that people love to have options. option mean for a better life for yourself. choices mean there are
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consequences because of sacrifices. whether they can pay the electric bill or the water bill. >> the problem is the average woman in america has lost ground under republican rule, not just because of the economic situation. but because they continually push back on their rights of reproductive freedom. making their own choices in their personal lives and the birth control pill stuff was just more than i think most people could bear. >> but, governor, while all that's important, you know with respect to the personal choices, they have also lost more economic ground under this administration in the last four years. which is the heart of the argument which is the heart of the argument when you're looking at 7% unemployment among women in this country as a group. i think that that's something is going to be part of the debate this fall. >> michael, let's look at the -- >> he took the oath of office, those jobs were lost under president bush, let's be frank about this. >> gentlemen, i want to look at the numbers. the new poll out this week showing president obama with a strong lead over mitt romney with female voters. when we get away from the hilary
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rosen issue, we remember back it was soccer mans, security moms, now this campaign is going to be about stay at home moms. getting the independent swing voters, the female vote. what is the romney strategy to turn that around? i mean because it can't just be focusing on stay at home moms. >> that's absolutely right. i think it's going to have to be a broader discussion about the role of women generally speaking. but the role of government and the economy and the impact on families, particularly women. i think is going to be a very important distinction to make for this, for this campaign. and i think the romney folks have already begun to sense that they've got this gender gap, that's obvious. howard dean has touched on that point, one that the democrats are going to drive home as hard as they can. the broader question now falls to the romney campaign. how do we contexturalize this thing in a way that particularly women see themselves reflected in his policy and in a positive way, going forward, versus what
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they've had to deal with, high gas prices, high energy costs, loss of wages and jobs over the last three or four years. >> governor how does the romney campaign shore up the female vote, by reminding them about what they have done with the economy? or reminding them about what he wants to do with the economy? >> well i think, i think you can contrast what governor romney wants to do with what president obama wants to do and has already done. the truth is that women haven't done well under republican regimes, because the republicans, the truth is, this is michael will disagree with me, but this is a fact, the economy is always better under democrats, that's true. government does have a role. that's been true under, that was true with george bush, it was true with ronde reagan and true now with george w. bush. i don't know why that is i think actually it's because government has a bigger role to play than the republicans will admit. the truth is, government has stood up for women. we're not for government, women wouldn't be allowed to vote. they, they worked hard, they pushed their government, their government made a decision. were it not for government,
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women wouldn't be allowed reproductive freedoms they have today. women i think think that government is more of an ally than most men do, i think that will work in our favor. >> michael, go ahead real fast. >> that's a reading of history. those things weren't per pit waited by government, they were per pit waited by citizens and individuals who rose up to push black on the government blocking those opportunities. >> republicans and. >> women's suffrage was a republican issue. >> howard dean, michael steele, thank you for your time. i want to go to today's list of number ones, first, sherman's travel. puts baltimore maryland atop its list of the ten most underrated u.s. cities. my home town charm city gets prasz for its inner harbor and its historical attraction. get an orange crush. ft. lauderdale, florida, and houston, texas round out the top three. you want to buy a home as an
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author of the harry potter series will release her first adult novel coming this september. her rose to fame after her first book was published. all the way back in 1997. she went on to write six more potter books, with sales of over 450 million copies worldwide. will the new book live up to the expectations of all of her fans? joining me is author and msnbc contributor, imogene lloyd weber. 1997 she splashed on to the scene. there have been children's authors in the past that have not done the crossover very well. the audience for rowling is ail bit different. >> absolutely. they started with her in the 1990s, and they're adults. it's a perfect progression. you can see why the publisher world is so excited about this. 450 million books sold, 74 languages for the harry potter series. her new publish, are thinking
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big here. the e-book for instance for the new novel is going to be $19.99. they're going for the money. they think this is gold. >> what is this plot? what is this based on? what target is she trying to go after. this was boy wizard, magic, the wondrous world of hogwarts. >> no magic this time around. normally with a harry potter books, the plots were always kept very much under wraps. we know more about this one. it's going to be called the casual vacancy. it's set in an idyllic english country town. you have the british element. then some dark things start happening. apparently it's described as darkly comic. so we get some interesting times in store. >> so when we say it's more adult themed, it's going to have some sexier overtones. >> yoe about that. probably some comedy there. the great thing about j.k. rowling is she was always
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accessible. without being patronizing. the last harry potter book sold 11 million copies on its first day of release. it wasn't just kids buying it in the end, it was all of us. >> now she's got this built-in audience with the kids that grew up, the parents of those kids that are fans. and she doesn't need the money. >> so this is all about fun fon her then? >> she's worth $1 billion. she's famous in britain for giving a lot of her money to charity. it's five years since the last full-length novel came out. so seal have progressed as a writer and we'll see where it goes, we have to wish her all the success in the world. >> and true to form with the fact that she's going with the different form of letting it be an e-book first. >> i think it's both at the same time. she got into e-books very late. harry potter only came out as an e-book last month, i believe. hard cover as well for $35. but nobody in e-books has ever tried to sell an e-book for $20. she's in the forefront of all of that. >> she's got the name
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all right. so now number three on our first five web stories, robin gibb. british reports say the bee gees star is in a coma, surrounded by family in a london hospital. the 62-year-old has been battling cancer and recently contracted pneumonia. in today's then and now, the tax man cometh for millions of americans this week. here's a report from "nbc nightly news" on how much president ronald reagan paid in 1983. >> the internal revenue service waits for no man very long, including the president of the united states. mr. reagan wrote his big check to the irs yesterday and the white house made his returns public this afternoon. chris wallace has them. >> 1982 was a good year for the reagans. according to their return, their
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total taxable income was $741,000. that includes $200,000 for being president. $247,000 in interest income, most from a blind trust. and $257,000 in capital gains. most from the sale of the reagan home in los angeles, for the previously undisclosed figure of $1 million. there was bad news. the reagans had to pay more than $292,000 in taxes. including a check they wrote yesterday for $124,000. >> all right so now compare those numbers with 29 years later. the current president's tax forms. we found out this weekend that president obama and first lady michelle obama reported a joint adjusted gross income of $789,674 last year. they paid $162,000 in federal taxes. their tax rate is about 20.5%. the income keeps the obamas in the top 1% of taxpayers. so with income tax day on tuesday, if you're stressing over your tax forms or trying to
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find an accountant on a sunday, maybe you've been confused about the talk about the higher taxes and the so-called buffett rule. president obama has been speaking out in support of his proposal to raise taxes on the richest americans as suggested by billionaire warren buffett. who said he paid a lower tax rate than his secretary. it may become a big issue this election year. there are a lot of questions about the idea. so it's a perfect topic for fact or fiction. joining me today from washington to answer some of these questions, david hawkins, editor of the daily briefing on roll call. we'll get to this as we awe sweat it out over tax day coming. already, president obama's buffett law proposal would make millionaires pay a 30% federal tax rate. fact or fiction? >> that's a fact. as millionaires defined by how much you make every year, actually it would kick in for people making a million dollar as year or more and the full 30% rate would apply to people making $2 million a year or more. that's the basics of the buffett rule. >> we're off the number one with the fact there.
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next, most american moyillionais do not pay as high a tax rate as other americans? >> that's a fiction. most of them do. most middle income people pay somewhere between 15 and 20%. effective tax rate. effective tax rate means after you filled out all your forms, taken all your deductions and your benefits, the effective tax rate, the grand total you made versus what percentage you pay. most middle income people are in the 15% to 20% range. the president you just mentioned is at 20.1%. mitt romney at about 15%. most rich people, though, aren't like mitt romney. because most rich people don't make most of their income in capital gains. investment profits, they pay closer to 30%. >> people want to talk about solutions with our tax money. the revenue that's being made. let's move on to the effect of the proposal. taxing millionaires. the question is, would it pay for the big cuts in the federal deficit. fact or fiction? >> that's a fiction. it would not. actually what the president is
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proposing wouldn't raise all that much money relative to the size of the budget it sounds like a lot, if we leave the current tax law alone this year in congress, it would raise about $5 billion a year only. if the bush tax cuts are repealed, it would go up to about $16 billion a year. the buffett rule. those are large amounts of money to be sure, but anything close to the amount of our deficit, which is still approaching about $1 trillion a year. >> david, when people talk about the buffett rule, does it have the support of most americans? fact or fiction? >> yes. that's a fact. it does. gallup had a poll out on friday that showed 60% of americans like this idea. another recent poll showed that some, almost as many people would, would favor applying this to people down at the $250,000 or above level. and believe it or not, that gallup poll showed almost half of republicans, about 45% of republicans favored this idea. >> all right. so the last question, is it expected to pass congress? fact or fiction? >> no way. it's not going to happen.
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the big vote is tomorrow. in the senate. as many viewers will know, basic civics these days, it takes 60 votes to do anything in the senate. the democrats have about 53 votes at their disposal, so it's going to fall well short tomorrow night. >> david hawkings, david great to see you, thank you. at the top of the hour, deadly twisters hitting the midwest. ey brush with. until i show them this. the new oral-b pro-health clinical brush. its pro-flex sides adjust to teeth and gums for a better clean. the new pro-health clinical brush from oral-b. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.
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officials say nearly 75% of the community is gone. so far, no deaths are reported there. at least five were killed in woodward, oklahoma when storm sirens failed to go off. and that's where we find more about this as well about kansas being under a state of emergency, with wichita's airport suffering damage in midwest along with the nearby air force base there. we have a team of coverage for you right now. weather channel meteorologist mike seidel is live for us in wichita. i want to begin with nbc's jay gray, live in woodward, oklahoma. jay what are you seeing and how is the community doing? >> reporter: as you can see behind me, a lot of traffic, a lot of people trying to get back in and see what may be left of the homes they left overnight. running from these string of killer tornadoes. take a look. we're going to pan across and through the traffic you can see just a touch of what is scattered for miles across this small town, debris that is splintered here. the metal twisted. the shattered glass. the things you typically see when you are dealing with dawn of this magnitude. there are so many people
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affected here. one shelter already set up by the red cross at this point, another one could be opening by the end of the day here. the governor is expected to be here. she is expected to do an aerial tour of the affected areas within the next hour or two. still a lot going on. as you talked about, thomas, a active search and recovery here. also hope that there will be some rescue here. there are still some people unaccounted for. so they are trying to go through all of the debris here. all of the homes that have been hit and make sure they can account for everyone here. 0 people at least injured here, at least five dead, of those 30, ten in critical condition, at least five taken to other hospitals by air ambulance to be treated to for their injuries. it's still a developing situation and it will be for quite some dime as they continue to work through this. thomas? >> jay, what have we learned about the reason for the storm sirens failing? >> reporter: it's interesting,
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because when you talk to some of the folks here, they say they heard a faint siren. but definitely not what they heard just hours before on saturday the sirens seemed to be working perfectly here. the mayor has said the second round, early sunday morning, just after midnight, the sirens were affected, they believe it's power issue. they believe that the power took a hit, they did not have time to respond and alert residents in any other way. that happened about 12:1. we know that the storms br on the ground about 12:16. so a matter of three minutes, they did what they could, they say. there is some concern that that may have affected the outcome here. >> jay, i'm going to try to get more answers, we're going to speak briefly to the woodward's director of emergency management in ten minutes, we'll let you get back. we want to move ton kansas where the governor just announced he will tour the damage today after declaring a state of emergency. now other officials in the wichita area reportedly estimate nearly $300 million in damage.
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just take one look at this destruction. you can see why it's all adding up so quickly. the weather channel meteorologist mike seidel joins me live if a damaged home in wichita. mike, we can see the debris laying around you there. >> reporter: this one of the hardest-hit homes in this subdivision. the home of tony and barbara klein. the tornado came in from the southwest during the 10:00 hour last night. we're at the weather service, we had to take cover, they had to transfer the orangeses up to topeka for 30 minutes, we had straight-line wind gust at the airport of 86 miles per hour. back here the twister rolled through. they're doing damage surveys now. they took out their garage. they were able to get their cars out this morning. they let the side of the building fall down. let me take you inside. they let us go inside just to show you what it looks like after twister hits. now this is not an ef-3 or 4 or 5, this is probably a 1 or a 2. what they did once they got home, they kept their eye on the tv and the warnings and watches. 15 minutes before the tornado hit they went down to the
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basement with their dog. and they heard a huge crash, they ran towards the bathroom, got in the tub and protected themselves, but daisy had a mind of her own and she came upstairs, a few minutes later they found daisy here in her favorite spot on the couch. they looked up and saw the sky, it had been raining, too. so the water came through the roof. took out that energy-efficient insulation that you all see in your attics. your top floors, which is usually a white color and look at it, it's gray, it is everywhere. just filled up with insulation. now they've taken some of their momentos out, already, their pictures, their plasma tv. you get a sense of what even a weak tornado can do to a house. the roof is gone, over in a field. the worst damage we've seen in the wichita area is across the field in that mobile home park where more than 100 structures were damaged, 10 to 15 destroyed. all the residents that were there got in a huge underground
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shelter, thomas, about 75 to 100, they're all okay. a lot of loss of property, but no fatalities here in metro wichita, good news all around. this could be replaced, but what a mess. >> the wind andle elements coming through. >> the positive news that they didn't lose everybody. all family members and people are safe. but it is a mess as we look at that, amazing. mike seidel, thanks. the threat of the dangerous conditions are not over. we're going to now talk to weather channel meteorologist jeff morrow. he lends his expertise to tell us what happened and what to expect. jeff? >> thank you, thomas. well the threat continues after yesterday's reports of over 100 tornadoes. and unfortunately, five fatalities. today the set-up, very similar. we don't think today will be as big a threat for tornadoes. we still have the warm, moist air flowing up from the gulf of mexico. we've got this low pressure area and a very strong jet stream moving out of the rockies. things coming together a little bit farther north today as far as the threat of tornadoes. we think the highest threat may actually be up here in parts of
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wisconsin, northwest illinois. eastern iowa and southeast minnesota. we could still have some big thunderstorms with gusty winds, hailing and lightning well down all the way into texas and louisiana by tonight. and then tomorrow, it looks like the emphasis will shift mainly back to the south as the front kind of stalls out here from chattanooga, tennessee to birmingham, new orleans, houston to the coastal bend of texas, that's where we could see strong thunderstorms. it doesn't look like a big tornado threat for tomorrow. thomas? >> jeff, thanks so much. coming up in 30 minutes, we take you to an iowa town almost completely destroyed. and you can also follow all the changing watches and warnings that are taking place, go to weather.com on the weather channel. breaking news in afghanistan, the u.s. embassy is on lockdown after a series of attacks today in the capital of kabul. taliban militants are claim responsibility for the coordinated attacks. shelling and gunfire have been heard near the american and british embassies, the nato
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bases as well as the afghan parliament and president hamid karzai's palace. we want to take you live to kabul and nbc news senior producer, sohel uddin to update us on what's going on. what's the latest you can fill us in on? >> reporter: well, the very latest is that the latest taliban statement that i've read. that you know, the today's attacks in kabul, which is still going on still in the capital, have stopped in the provinces where they were attacking earlier today. the main reasons for this is the koran burning, the attack in kandahar of the 17 children and women and people who were killed there. and also, the shots of soldiers supposedly urinating on taliban soldiers. now, the very latest is, is that the three areas in kabul were under attack. two of them are still under the attack, near the hotel, and also the parliament area. so far, we've been told that 14
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police and civilians were wounded in all of today's attacks. and you know, there is stability in one of the areas, but they haven't secured two of the areas. in fact we just heard a series of three explosions, about 20 minutes ago. >> and sohel, as we're reporting the u.s. embassy is on lockdown. what to we know about the americans inside the embassy and their safety? >> there are no reports, the u.s. embassy did release a statement a couple of hours ago, condemning the attacks and saying this does not help the peace and stability that they want to leave behind in afghanistan. but there is no report there are no reports of exactly the state of the people in the embassy. >> sohel uddin reporting from kabul, thank you so much. straight ahead, in front-page politics, newt gingrich answers the question that many may be asking -- why is he still in the running? also coming up, a wreath
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the economic divide, the chief strategist for the obama campaign and the senior adviser for the romney campaign squaring off over the economy today. take a listen. >> the fact is the republican budget is the wrong direction for this country. more massive tax cuts for people at the top. more cuts in things that we need to grow our economy like education, like research and development. like energy. more cuts in our basic social
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safety nets. >> for the past three years we've seen the damage done by president obama's policies. we've seen the failed stimulus result in unemployment above 8% for 38 straight months. we've seen his obama care bill result in rising premiums for our health insurance. >> on the campaign trail, mitt romney will attend a pair of fundraisers in florida. first stopping by naples on the west coast before heading east to palm beach. newt gingrich is out on the campaign trail, touring the nascar hall of fame in charlotte, north carolina on saturday. was asked about why he is still in the race. >> our scenario is to make the case that if you want to beat obama, having somebody who can debate him successfully is very, very important. and if you want to get america back on the right track, having big-enough solutions that they're effective is very, very important. i think that's a very healthy competition with romney. i will see over the next few weeks, how it works out. >> joining me is national political reporter for the "atlantic" molly ball and msnbc
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contributor and political editor for thegrio.com baker. >> molly, i want to start with you, the economy an issue for so many americans in the election. a to the issue for both sides, they're slamming each other today. if the economy continues to improve under president obama, what might be the terms of romney's campaign going forward, since his foundation is being on business leader? >> obviously the improving economy is a challenge for the romney campaign. because as you just heard, their whole argument is that the economy is terrible. and it's president obama's fault. and so, we've seen already that as some sort of green shoots start coming in the economy, some good numbers start coming up. they've had to recalibrate their argument. he's had to start arguing not only that things are bad. but that even if things are getting better, it's not good enough. or that things could be even better if we hadn't pursued these kinds of policies. as we keep looking at the trend line on the economy and keep
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looking at the strength of the recovery relative to what we expect, that will be argument we're having. >> perry, when we look at the numbers from last month and talk about the jobs numbers, they didn't meet the analysts' expectations. if we see more of that from now until november, what kind of overall impact is that going to have on president obama's strategy, talking about the fact that the economy is slowly rebounding? steady but sure. >> you can see the obama campaign is already anticipating that in some ways, they've moved a little bit away from the purely the economy is recovering and things are getting better. they're now trying to draw contrast to say even if things are not going as well if you think they should be, it would be even worse under president romney. saying that romney would keep tax cuts in place for the rich. cut spending on medicaid and medicare. thatter trying to make it a contrast about visions as opposed to a referendum about president obama and the economy. >> molly, let's switch subjects to talk about what the president is doing and perry, we're going to talk about why the president
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is there. but molly, i want to start with you about the fallout about the claims of misconduct against the secret service, the personnel, the military leaders. that were in attendance in colombia. what are you hearing in washington, d.c. about the investigation itself and the misconduct itself? >> the latest development appears to be there are 11 secret service agents involved and five members of the military and so both the secret service and the military are investigating some sordid details of what happened down there. coming out this may have all become a story because one of the agents refused to pay a lady of the night. that he had employed. so but i think the question that we're all sort of asking about this is, is this really an isolated incident or is there a larger pattern or habit of misconduct by these men in these very sensitive positions. and i think those investigations will probably have to look into whether there's any kind of track record of this kind of behavior. >> it's a great point, isolated
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incident or did they just get caught. you mow, on their first time out. or is this indicative of something else in the culture there. so perry, while the sexual scandal is taking front page over the president's trip there, let's talk more about why he was going to attend this economic summit. the importance of the president's physicality in colombia and meeting with the presidents of brazil and colombia. >> this is a big summit, these summits are less for the front pages and more about the president having time it meet these foreign leaders and having time to work on issues that are maybe not going to be in the campaign and not front page policy news. so in some ways the challenge is this is going to take away attention from not only the summit. but also the white house willing to spend this week talking about the buffett rule and their big push about that. these are being taken away by the secret service scandal. which has nothing do do with obama, but taking away the attention from the policies he wants to push. >> molly, your latest piece in
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"the atlantic" is mitt romney's the supreme court's best friend. explain that? >> i think we're seeing both candidates line up and take sides with the supreme court. as a result of the unexpectedly hostile hearings they had on the obama care legislation. we've seen obama taking tentative steps potentially running against the court if it runs against him. we hear romney look it take the opposite side, look to side with the court and say, look, i, i'm with the supreme court on this. and the president is not. and have that be the terms. i think this is going to be a big general election argument between the two candidates, especially if the ruling comes down invalidating part or all of the health care legislation. >> molly ball, perry baker, my thanks to all of you. the tax deadline filing in two days, we'll look at how much the irs collects and why there's less chance you might get audited.
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warning was issued before it hit. and it did impact our community. about a two-mile wide area, or two-mile long. a quarter of a mile wide is the past. right now we've got unfortunately five fatalities to report. 29 injuries with this storm. and about 100 homes and businesses have been destroyed. so we are digging out, unfortunately it took a sour turn for us last night. >> it's a tremendous hit on your neighborhood zlxt we're working to get this recovered. >> when we talk about certain neighborhoods, such tremendous hit for certain ones in the city itself with the loss of life, the injuries. i understand that the mayor was able to confirm with reporters, that an emergency siren malfunctioned, failing to go off. however some people heard it earlier in the day, didn't hear it later. when it was more serious. do we know more information about what may have happened?
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>> part my job is to maintain and set the sirens off. we do have 20 of the sirens. that was only one of those that malfunctioned, that was because we had about eight tornadoes earlier in the day, just in this county alone, that came with some lightning. lightning hit one of those sirens, it was about a mile and a half east of where the tornado actually hit. we did get reports that the sirens were working in the area that the tornado impacted. but that they were only working for a few minutes as the tornado took out the radio system that activates those sirens as well as the power. so i guess one thing you can stress on that is the outdoor warning sirens are intended to warn you when you're outdoors or in your vehicle. they're not necessarily intended to warn you in your home. that's what a weather radio and other warning devices in your home are for. >> well and people need to be paying attention to the forecast. matt we're going to let you go. thanks so much for joining me, i
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appreciate it. a newly uncovered video of mitt romney makes you wonder if he's make being a class distinction for stay at home moms. you'll need to see for yourself. we're going to have that in the big three after this. the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. with dana all night. wow. lost my mio energy, hired this guy to keep me awake. here, have some of mine. ♪ mmmmm. you're fired! [ male announcer ] personal, portable mio energy. shake things up.
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i was born here, i'm still here and so is bp. details continue to emerge from colombia, where an embarrassing scandal is overshadowing the president's trip there. 11 secret service personnel, including special agents have been suspended amid allegations that they brought prostitutes back to their hotel rooms. now the secret service members were on assignment for president obama's trip to the summit of the americas. nbc news spoke to congressman peter king, who was briefed on the investigation. all i know is that two of the 11 were supervisors, i did not ask if they were married or not. all day saturday they were being interviewed at secret service headquarters in washington. so the full investigation has begun. >> joining me with more is nbc
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news white house correspondent, kristen welker. a lot of people as i'm reading on twitter, they're very upset about the fact that this scandal and the implications that it is now making people think about, is drawing attention away from the real reason why the president has gone on this trip. >> absolutely. this has undoubtedly overshadowed the president's trip. if you talk to folks within the white house. they will say they're frustrated as well. they came here for a policy summit to discuss issues, including immigration and trade and now all of the headlines have been dedicated to this. so there's frustration all around. but thomas, as you know, the details continue to come out in this scandal just continues to grow by the day. >> so kristen, when we talk about the fact of the details, we've learned that the members of the u.s. military were involved as well in this. they were there roughly two weeks ahead of time prior to the president's arrival. so explain what they were doing in this time getting ready for
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the president's detail to come? >> reporter: you know, thomas, it's not unusual for them to send an advanced staff to sort of get prepared to make sure that all of the security measures are in place. generally they get sent about two weeks in advance. it is quite a big job. that's why they are the send a lot of people to do this job. but it certainly, one of the reasons why people are so concerned about this, is because they say, it's a possible security breach. you just had peter king on, talking about the details of this. he is one of the people who is saying, think about what could have happened. the incident, the alleged incident took place at this hotel, el caribe, which is where i am now, a few minutes from where the president is staying. so representative peter king and others said those women could have gained information or access that could have ultimately wound up endangering the president. luckily, the white house saying that the president's security
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was never compromised in this incident. >> kristen, one thing i've been reading on twitter is the old phrase, wings up, rings off. what is this going mean to taking a close and hard look at the type of culture that exists around the secret service. >> well it's going to mean that they're going to take a close, hard look. one expert in this matter is calling this the largest scandal in secret service history. it makes the point that this might mean that the entire agency needs to basically have a reorganization. from the top down. so they're going to have to look at their standards, their practices. and just take a really hard look at this. and the white house, by the way, will be paying close attention. as you know, the secret service has launched an internal investigation and members of congress are investigating as well. thomas? >> kristen welk anywhere colombia for us, kristen, thanks so much. back at home, battered residents in tornado alley are bracing toor possibly more
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severe weather today. weather officials will investigate the nearly 100 reports of tornadoes across four states yesterday. some struck in the darkness of night. kansas governor sam brownback said he'll damage the this afternoon. in oklahoma storms killed five in the town of woodward. officials say a lightning strike knock out a tornado siren and in iowa, a likely tornado nearly destroyed the town of thurman. that state's governor declared two counties disaster areas and he plans to tour a hospital damaged in the storm. we want to go to weather channel meteorologist jim cantore on the other side of iowa. what are we seeing? >> reporter: it's a sea of humanity. we had the whole park area full of people earlier on. we've got these tree debris piles, if you will, because of literally dozens of volunteers that came on by. you can see the red cross is here as well. the salvation army just walked
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by. and of course, now that the truck is in my shot, i can't show you the utility pole companies that are up there putting up poles and wires and what not. there's damage just everywhere you can see. there's tarps on roofs, off on the right there, they cleared that house off this morning. that is a livable house, so it's not a destroyed structure. off on the left side, we see a church that's still hanging in there pretty well. shingles ripped off a roof. but a lot of tree damage here. we got a chance to talk to the national weather service, they did say we're probably going to give this one an ef-2 rating, thomas, because we see so much tree damage here. and some roof damage as well. some structures have attained pretty heavy damage and we haven't gotten a chance to see obviously all of them. as a matter of fact that was the mayor that just went by on that atv. again guys you can see behind me, a lot of the tree damage. winds possibly as high as 125 miles per hour. amazing all of this damage, thomas, no serious injuries, no loss of life. that's what we like to hear. back to you. >> it's amazing when you look at the pictures to think that.
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jim canore in thurman, iowa. to see more information, watch the weather channel or visit their website at weather.com. the new leader of north korea spoke to his nation and the world for the first time today. he also unveiled a new long-range missile during a military parade. and the multi-stage rocket was on display only days after a north korean policele launch failed. kim jong un said he would make military strength his top priority. the speech was the finale to celebrations marking the 100th birthday of his grandfather, who founded north korea. all right so now the best of alex's office politics and those conversations. from the daily beast and "newsweek's" tina brown to journalist dan rather, a rare look at the personal side of any of these famous faces. >> when you hear that you've kind of you hear it and you hear she's lonely. intensity of that woman that was so profoundly sad to me. it made you have an insight into the woman who was beloved by
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everybody in the world, but felt she was completely isolated. >> you were taking a number one "new york times" best-selling book and you're thinking, they're going to make a "game change" movie and what this if he mess it up? >> part of the reason we took the project to hbo in the first place is they had a good reputation for taking historical dramas to -- >> up here with sarah palin. >> great to see her in her element. there's so many sides of sarah palin. as we see, "game change" the movie and all the other sides of sarah palin. you've got to acknowledge that there is a really authentic alaska side of her. >> so sarah palin's reaction was that to be expected? >> we wish she would see the movie. >> you talked about something being as black as a crow's wing. >> that's the way i grew up talking. so god instead of saying it's hotter than hell today. you would say man it's as hot as a laredo parking lot.
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>> we going to talk about my bourgeois existence? >> yes. >> it's been above my desk since 1996. the picture ever me and the great pat buchanan. st. pat rick's day in chicago. is the key difference, i had a lot more hair back then. at least some. number two, pat has a tartan driver's cap on and he's carrying a shill laically. >> i'm most interested in this picture that you have with president george w. bush. >> he actually opened his speech and said i was in the audience and he and i don't agree on anything, but we all both agree to be able to read and write. >> we want to a "game change" set, director's chair set up. on the back we have the "game change" logo. on this side we have the john heilemann thing. >> these are all warhol drawings, kind of advertising or commercialized themes. he is so visionary.
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>> you have some musical legends there, you've got michael jackson. >> this is '79, i would go out on the road sometimes and meet james brown. that's me at seven years old as a board preacher. i'm still a wonder, i'm not a boy any more. >> are you the kind of mom who if you get a text in the middle of a meeting, just a moment, my daughter or son is detectioning? >> i'm right back. boom. we have little codes where we text each other it's like a love dot. i love dot back. you know. >> i would love to be a fly in the wall at their dinner table. just over the dinner table, just listening. >> like who is going to wash the dishes? it's your turn? no, it's your turn. i did it last night. like every other couple. >> i'm afraid i'm a complete pushover to my kids. i have a son and daughter and they're, we're such a close family. >> as i say to my children, home is all about what's inside of it. >> dell me about auntia. >> she's been working at nbc sports for a long time. >> do you guys ever get to intersect much? >> you know, maybe that's the
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key. >> my greatest job is trying to get enough sleep and occasionally a decent breakfast. >> cooking is not my thing. but fortunately my husband doesn't care. >> that's good, note to self, tina brown has one thing she does not excel in. >> thank you for allowing me to clean up before you got here. >> not. >> great conversations, right? alex is going to be back next weekend to bring you her conversation with msnbc's rachel madd maddow. they're going to discuss rachel's brand new book called "drift." mitt romney may have taken a hit in the mommy wars, thanks to a new tape after this break. ♪[music plays] ♪[music plays]
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to remember those who perished, it kurd on tccurred on the deck a boat that retraced the route of the "titanic." it's time for today's big three. time warp edition. today's topics, blast from the past, scandal in the present. and gingrich in the future. want to bring in our big three panel. msnbc contributor and former communications director for rick santorum, robert trainham. real clear politics reporter, erin mcpike and msnbc contributor and democratic strategist, crystal ball. erin, i start with you, the mommy wars, this debate has been raging all week this is what mitt romney said on friday about it. >> i happen to believe that all moms are working moms. and if you have five sons, why, you your work is never over. >> so the up with chris hayes team here on msnbc they came across some sound from mitt romney in january. take a listen to this. >> i also like the idea that
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people who are receiving assistance, welfare assistance, have a responsibility of working. in my state, we made good progress in that regard. following the days of the welfare reform act. but then while i was governor, 85% of the people on a form of welfare assistance in my state, had no work requirement. and i wanted to increase the work requirement. i said for instance, that even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work. and people said, well that's heartless. and i said no, no, i'm willing to spend more giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. it will cost the state more providing that day care, but i want the individuals to have the dignity of work. >> so erin, what is your reaction to the romney comments when you consider the debate we've been seeing going back and forth this week? >> i don't think it's entirely apples to apples. i think the larger point that a lot of people are making is that mitt romney is a very wealthy person.
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doesn't totally understand the needs of the working class and that many of them have to work and they don't have the same choices as his family did. but i think the larger thing that's developed over the past week or so, is really that democrats are now suddenly pitted against stay-at-home moms and republicans are suddenly pitted against working women. but that's not really how this country works. and there are stay-at-home moms who are democrats and working women who are republicans, and we need to understand more of that. >> crystal, mitt romney saying in the sound byte from january that he wants individuals to have the dignity to work. how do you interpret that one? >> well thomas, you know, i don't think this is really fair. because back in january, that's when mitt romney was trying to to be the severely conservative governor. now he's the presumptive nominee so it's a totally different circumstance. i mean i think it just exposes how ridiculous and hollow this
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whole thing has been. why romney would spend a week focusing on comments from someone who is not even an adviser to the obama campaign. or the dnc, is beyond me. i mean did we really just spend the last week arguing about who loves moms more? because there is a substantive debate that we need to have about maybe changing the u.s.'s status as the only developed country in the world to not have paid parental leave. or having workplace flexibility or expanding child care tax credits. i mean those are real debates. this has been ridiculous. >> at least both sides can agree, don't mess with mom. robert, we've heard from many people this past week, including ann romney, stressing that being a stay-at-home mom is just as hard as having a job outside the house. and many women have agreed with that. what do you make of the comments that mitt romney made in january, in light of everything we've heard the past week? >> i agree with erin. i think this is really comparing an apple to an orange to a certain degree. when you ask welfare moms back
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in 1996 during the welfare reauthorization act, the majority of them said i want to work. the problem is, i can't find work. so you know, i think that's the context of what mitt romney was trying to say. when you fast-forward to today, with what an romney was trying to say was look, whether you want to work or not, that's your choice as a woman. we should have the ability as women, think that's what she was trying to say, obviously i'm not a woman, i'm paraphrasing what she was drying to say. we should have the option to be able to stay at home if we choose. or go into the workplace if we choose, that's our decision and that is our right and shame on you, hilary rosen for slapping me on the hands so to speak for choosing to stay at home to raise my five boys. i think it's -- >> how does that relate to the presidential campaign, though? i mean that's the part that i'm failing to understand and maybe i'm just missing something. how does what hilary rosen said, which i found insulting as well. how is that relevant? he's not making the argument that the obama campaign is pushing a policy that's anti-mom? he's not even putting forward something, some alternative that
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would be somehow pro mom. so i'm just, i'm not seeing how this is really relevant to the debate other than a desperate tactic to try to get women back on his side. >> i think it's much ado about nothing. hilary stepped into it. but she stepped into it purposely. these are her words, she was the one who obviously spoke the way she spoke on anderson cooper a couple of days ago. this wasn't mitt romney or the republicans bringing this up. hillary rosen brought this up. >> doesn't it beg the bigger question, i've brought this up before, mitt romney, this was based on the fact that mitt romney gets his information on the economy from ann. mitt romney has yet to come out and say, when i talk to women on the stump, when i talk to a working mom out there in the economy. when i talk to this woman over here. instead, i think what she was trying to do was establish the fact that ann is the conduit to getting economic information back to him in his campaign. so robert, don't you see the fact that mitt romney needs to come out to say and all of our candidates need to come out and say, first person, when i talk
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to this person in the american public. this is what i'm getting from them. >> thomas, you're exactly right. ann romney is not running for president of the united states. mitt romney is and he needs to articulate to all the people, regardless of whether you're male or female, about what his vision is for this country. he needs to articulate firsthand as to what he's hearing when he campaigns around this country. this is not about ann romney, this is not about hilary rosen. this is not about anyone else except for barack obama and mitt romney and the vision or the lack thereof that they have for the next four years. so to answer your question, this is all about mitt romney and not about ann. >> we had i'm going to jump topics here, we're going from security mom, soccer moms, stay-at-home moms to the next part of my alliteration, the secret service sex scandal. the president being in colombia and the fact that, crystal, that the to go team, the went that went in ahead to scout things out has basically blown the focus off the reason why the president went in the first place. to meet with the presidents of colombia and brazil.
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how much of a real distraction is this to the work that's being done? >> well first of all, thomas, nice segue. >> thank you. >> but no, i mean it's, this is definitely not the story that the president wanted to come out of this trip. and i don't think there will be those who try to sort of tie the scandal directly to the president. who hasn't had a real scandal, which is in itself quite remarkable. i think it does sort of ding the argument that government can be done efficiently and without corruption. any time you have a scandal like this, it's a problem for that narrative. i will say, though, the president did do a number of spanish language interviews that were aired in the united states that i think were successful. that where he got to focus on the policy aspects that he wanted to. but definitely not the story that he wanted to come out of this trip. >> robert again this is egg on the face, after the salahis, now prostitutes in colombia. do they need to take a look at what's going on with the secret service to realign some of the oversight? >> absolutely. to answer your question, thomas,
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this really is a pebble, if you will in the president's shoe. a huge distraction. it's clearly not anything to do with the president and everything to do with the secret service. it's very unfortunate. they clearly didn't do anything illegal. but what they did was highly unethical and something that should not have happened. >> straight ahead, we're going to start out with erin. all three estate and all of you at home stay put, we're back after this. o a small high school. the teacher that comes to mind for me is my high school math teacher, dr. gilmore. i mean he could teach. he was there for us, even if we needed him in college. you could call him, you had his phone number. he was just focused on making sure we were gonna be successful. he would never give up on any of us. a simple way to make dinner fresh and new again.
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be because newt gingrich believes that that makes mitt romney a stronger candidate going into the fall because there's a clearer contrast between him and the president. >> what are your must reads? >> the atlantic online, nancy sculla takes a look at alec, the right wing group, but she takes a particular interest at the role that social media has been around alec and other cases as well. >> erin about you. >> the "new york times" has a -- strengthening the military. after the failed rocket launch on friday. >> the "new york times" as an interesting piece on the president and how big dollars and also lobbyists are coming
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into the white house. i just think it's a very interesting juxtaposition that the president finds himself in four years later. >> thanks to all years later. i appreciate your time today. >> i appreciate your time, that's going to wrap up this edition of alex witt. i'll see you here tomorrow at my regular time, 11:00 a.m. i'm more of an absentee plant parent.
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